In the tip, he did the precise factor… kinda. Rick Grimes lastly had Negan in a one-on-one showdown throughout The Walking Dead’s season eight finale. Rick defined Carl’s dying want of the 2 of them placing their variations apart to share a imaginative and prescient for a brand new future, and simply when it appeared Negan would possibly presumably get on board, Rick lower his throat.
However, Rick then thought higher of it and saved his arch-nemesis so he may “rot in a cell” and watch the longer term they constructed with out him. It was an intense and private finale crammed with moments each large and small — together with some flashbacks to a key father-son second from the previous. We spoke to star Andrew Lincoln to get his tackle the large Negan battle, that blast from the previous scene, what to anticipate transferring ahead, working with a brand new showrunner, and his large secret Fear the Walking Dead crossover scene. Read on for solutions!
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: So, to be clear, when Rick is asking Negan to provide him 10 seconds after which feeds him that line about how Carl wished them to work collectively in peace to discover a higher method — it’s all BS at that time, proper? Because at that time he’s nonetheless planning to kill him.
ANDREW LINCOLN: That’s proper! I informed [showrunner Scott M. Gimple] “You want me to do the Scoundrel’s Play?” And he stated, “I didn’t know there’s a name for it.” “Yes, there is. It’s the Scoundrel’s Play, where I use my dead child’s name in vain on order to kill my arch-nemesis. If you’re comfortable with it, I’m comfortable with it.”
Because it was a priority of mine, as a result of I used to be like, “Okay, we’ve done the beat in episode 14,” however he realizes it doesn’t work. You can’t kill ache away. Almost within the act of doing it and profitable victory, no matter that appears like, he realizes what is going to occur if he kills him. Then he turns into him. Or he reneges on his little one’s dying needs. What Negan says after is a large pivot level the place then Rick goes: “No, I am not you.” And that’s when he asks to save lots of his life. So all of it occurs very, in a short time. It’s nearly like there’s a second of recognition when he sees the dying Negan that brings him out of his torture.
You know, technically Rick did on a number of events promise he was going to kill Negan, so I don’t need to name him a liar, however he sort of went again on his phrase, didn’t he?
Yeah, however I went again on my phrase in episode 14 and killed all of them! Apparently he’s turn into a liar this season! He doesn’t maintain true to his phrase. It’s a humorous factor as a result of I assumed concerning the aftermath. You’ve obtained Maggie’s response, which is extraordinary and extremely highly effective. It wasn’t like a victory speech. It’s a person a military of individuals all wanting very bewildered and shocked and traumatized, their chief saying ‘We’re not going to kill him” and that’s what he’s been promising them that is all about. I appreciated it as a result of it was a really confused, however it was what Rick needed to do to save lots of himself, and it upset lots of people within the course of.
Does this give us a profoundly completely different Rick Grimes in season 9, then?
I believe it does. I believe there’s all the time going to be a way of he’s misplaced the entire most essential components of himself, and but he has the legacy and reward that Carl gave him that’s going to gasoline his ambitions for the longer term. He’s obtained a renewed objective due to this and due to his son. So it’s completely a brand new man. This is the person who couldn’t see what Deanna noticed concerning the future and nonetheless couldn’t see it for a protracted, very long time even all through all of this and the battle he was hell-bent on vengeance. And now you’ll meet and discover a man — relying on how a lot time after the occasions that we simply witnessed — that has modified, radically, in concepts and objective.
How was filming the brawl scene with Jeffrey? I hear you all shot that total sequence in at some point.
It was a protracted day. It was a kind of days the place I spent the morning getting kicked round by Jeffrey Dean Morgan, which is enjoyable, to a degree. And then I slit his throat with out truly slitting his throat. And then flip round and be confronted with a screaming widow begging for blood. And then give a declaration of peace to 500 individuals on a battlefield. Then, clear an oncoming super-horde of zombies. And lastly, earlier than the lights falls, as a result of its winter and we solely had 10 hours to shoot the entire day, begin weeping for the loss of life of my son.
And in order that’s my day! So I used to be little anxious, to say the least. It was a kind of days the place you go, “We should have three weeks!” But we had 10 hours. And I don’t suppose it was my best hour. I believe I in all probability needed to apologize to Greg Nicotero a few instances. And in all probability once I get again to Atlanta I’ll once more. I believe I used to be a bit short-tempered as a result of I used to be fairly anxious. But it went fairly good in the long run. I went house feeling that we obtained one thing that was really epic and worthy shedding Carl.
How did it really feel shaving and placing the deputy sheriff’s uniform again on once more?
It was mad! It was loopy! I shaved, after which dyed my hair — as a result of it’s been some time. [Laughs] They needed to take out the uniform just a little bit — as a result of I’ve been understanding a lot. [Laughs] And then I obtained off the bus and [new showrunner Angela Kang] had tears in her eyes. And I believe it was in all probability as a result of I had aged, badly. But I prefer to suppose it was additionally as a result of it was such a robust second.
And individuals who had been there in that third season had been all sort of gobsmacked, ? I did marketing campaign for the to make use of the uniform. It had an essential resonance for what the child was asking of his father — that he wished that man again. Of course, it’s not going to be the identical man. But there’s a sense that restraint moderately than revenge is what that man represented again then — legislation and order and management and security. That is a imaginative and prescient that the boy had and is the reward that he provides to his father.
What is it like transferring over from Scott Gimple to Angela Kang because the showrunner?
There’s a renewed vigor and vitality to every little thing — simply by advantage of the truth that it’s any person completely different on the helm. Of programs, Scott continues to be right here, however he’s a really respectful boss. He believes in creativity and permitting individuals to create, so he’s standing again and letting Angela do that. And so it is vitally thrilling. Angela has all the time been a author that I actually admire. I like her episodes and all the time have since season 2. For her to be main the ship, there’s a actual sense of objective and vitality and vitality and new route.
I can’t wait to see this subsequent episode. It’s actually attention-grabbing. It’s very completely different in a great way. In an exiting method. It’s extra harking back to the pilot than another season that we’ve launched into, which makes me very completely satisfied. It’s a very good time for it. It’s a extremely thrilling time for it. I really feel like season 1. It’s an enormous yr and I’m excited for it.
How does it really feel now to have crossed over to Fear the Walking Dead as properly. We knew Lennie was going over, however there you were also. How did that come about?
I referred to as up Lennie in an effort to attempt to get him again on the present and so we’ve all the time had a really respectful relationship, and he requested me, “What’s it going to be like? Is it worth it? Is it going to be worth my while? What’s the attitude like? Is everybody cool? What’s the deal?” And I stated “You’ll have the best time on set. It’s certainly the greatest, craziest experience on a set in my career. And I promise you’re going to have a great time.”
So when Scott talked about this concept to him, he’s such a unprecedented, gracious, and funky dude that he simply stated, “Well, there’s someone I need to ask first.” So he referred to as me up and stated, “Are you cool with this?” And I stated, “ You gotta do what you gotta do. Of course I want you to stay but it’s your life and it’s a great opportunity.” And I don’t blame him. You’re the best main man there’s! It’s an amazing concept! So he stated, “Will you come and send me off?” And I stated “With the greatest of pleasure.” So that’s why I’m in it.
Well, it’s the excellent send-off.
Because the very fact is you possibly can put any person else in there asking him to remain, however it’s not the identical. These are two males which can be the oldest associates and oldest relationships they’ve left. Because all people else is gone. It’s the oldest friendship they’ve. He desires Morgan to share on this imaginative and prescient for the longer term as a result of they’re twins. They’ve saved one another’s lives on a number of events, and he desires to do it once more. But he chooses to run.
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